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	<title>Comments on: BBA Challenge Bread #5: Casatiello</title>
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	<description>Combining my chef dad’s lessons with fresh, seasonal ingredients in a tiny NYC kitchen</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivete -

Great story and visuals.  I made this over the weekend and my dough looked very similar to yours.  My rise wasn&#039;t as nice though. I used &quot;reduced fat buttermilk&quot; - the wife said that was the only buttermilk our large mega-grocer had. It actually had some lumps in it too - the heavy fat stuff tends to have this - I would just use my nose to see if it&#039;s bad or not.

I used a large roll of summer sausage becuase it was the only thing in a roll that we could find and fried up small chunks as you did with the prosciutto.   I grated the cheddar cheese - next time (if there is a next time, because this was a chore to make this bread!) I will just cube up the cheese as it melted a bit too much in the baking process.

I used a round, disposable aluminum pan we had laying around - about 10&quot; in diameter - this worked our really well as it fit very nicely inside and browned the top and the sides well.

I use one of those insertion digital thermometers sold for meat - when I go in to turn my loaf 1/2 way, insert the probe and have the wire just come out of the door to the little transmitter.  That way you can carry  the read-out unit anywhere nearby to monitor.    The Oregon Scientific one I use, doesn&#039;t go beyond 199 so I just set it to Celsius and do the conversion - i.e. it should register 97 C for the equivalent of 206 degrees Fahrenheit.  This works very well.

Taste and texture were very good overall.  I ended up using about 3-4 oz more of buttermilk than it called for as the dough just wouldn&#039;t behave w/o it in my KitchenAid - nearly killed it.</description>
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<p>Great story and visuals.  I made this over the weekend and my dough looked very similar to yours.  My rise wasn&#8217;t as nice though. I used &#8220;reduced fat buttermilk&#8221; &#8211; the wife said that was the only buttermilk our large mega-grocer had. It actually had some lumps in it too &#8211; the heavy fat stuff tends to have this &#8211; I would just use my nose to see if it&#8217;s bad or not.</p>
<p>I used a large roll of summer sausage becuase it was the only thing in a roll that we could find and fried up small chunks as you did with the prosciutto.   I grated the cheddar cheese &#8211; next time (if there is a next time, because this was a chore to make this bread!) I will just cube up the cheese as it melted a bit too much in the baking process.</p>
<p>I used a round, disposable aluminum pan we had laying around &#8211; about 10&#8243; in diameter &#8211; this worked our really well as it fit very nicely inside and browned the top and the sides well.</p>
<p>I use one of those insertion digital thermometers sold for meat &#8211; when I go in to turn my loaf 1/2 way, insert the probe and have the wire just come out of the door to the little transmitter.  That way you can carry  the read-out unit anywhere nearby to monitor.    The Oregon Scientific one I use, doesn&#8217;t go beyond 199 so I just set it to Celsius and do the conversion &#8211; i.e. it should register 97 C for the equivalent of 206 degrees Fahrenheit.  This works very well.</p>
<p>Taste and texture were very good overall.  I ended up using about 3-4 oz more of buttermilk than it called for as the dough just wouldn&#8217;t behave w/o it in my KitchenAid &#8211; nearly killed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Casatiello: a Savory Bread &#124; Eating Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Casatiello: a Savory Bread &#124; Eating Out Loud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bread baker&#8217;s: Casatiello - A Stove With a House Around It Casatiello - The Barefoot Kitchen Casatiello - A Chef&#8217;s Daughter Casatiello and a Nest - Big Black Dog Read similar [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In spite of your failed bread, you didn&#039;t fail to make me laugh, so consider this week&#039;s challenge a success!  Try this one again.  It really was delicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In spite of your failed bread, you didn&#8217;t fail to make me laugh, so consider this week&#8217;s challenge a success!  Try this one again.  It really was delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: Devany</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Devany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too thought that your bread was going to come out perfectly! Usually the thermometer does not lie! I like the old &quot;thump&quot; test too. The pictures of the finished bread looked great. I like you &quot;early birds&quot; that are running ahead of me! I always learn something. 

I think that a *hot* oven is the least of your problems. I have baked in a wood burning oven that was over 600 degrees and breads came out fine. Granted, I had to move them around a bit. Even now (till my new wood burning oven is built) I have a hearth insert that I bake directly on and I pre-heat it to 550, then turn the oven to the suggested temperature. 

KEEP TRYING! Your pictures and stories are fun to read. 

Devany, Hilo, HI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too thought that your bread was going to come out perfectly! Usually the thermometer does not lie! I like the old &#8220;thump&#8221; test too. The pictures of the finished bread looked great. I like you &#8220;early birds&#8221; that are running ahead of me! I always learn something. </p>
<p>I think that a *hot* oven is the least of your problems. I have baked in a wood burning oven that was over 600 degrees and breads came out fine. Granted, I had to move them around a bit. Even now (till my new wood burning oven is built) I have a hearth insert that I bake directly on and I pre-heat it to 550, then turn the oven to the suggested temperature. </p>
<p>KEEP TRYING! Your pictures and stories are fun to read. </p>
<p>Devany, Hilo, HI</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one gorgeous loaf of bread, in spite of the challenges you faced! Great job and I appreciate your honest assessment of everything! Good post! Have you done the bagels yet? I had fun with them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one gorgeous loaf of bread, in spite of the challenges you faced! Great job and I appreciate your honest assessment of everything! Good post! Have you done the bagels yet? I had fun with them!</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you get things figured out. You put so many goodies into that bread. 
Susie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you get things figured out. You put so many goodies into that bread.<br />
Susie</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://achefsdaughter.com/2009/06/bba-challenge-bread-casatiello/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up until the end of your post. I was sure it was going to come out perfect. While I like the browning of the bread, I sort of liked the color of the dough and wanted something pale like yours.

Hope you can rein in the oven. I have two oven thermometers in mine because the temperature knob is loose and spans 30 degrees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up until the end of your post. I was sure it was going to come out perfect. While I like the browning of the bread, I sort of liked the color of the dough and wanted something pale like yours.</p>
<p>Hope you can rein in the oven. I have two oven thermometers in mine because the temperature knob is loose and spans 30 degrees!</p>
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